GUTMAN GROUP PHOTOS
PAGE 12
PHOTOS
NEEDING IDENTIFICATION
Photo 04-12-01
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Photo 04-12-02
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These
photos are mounted together in the centre of a page
in Shirley Goodman's photo album. Although there is
no concrete evidence, it is possible that these two
were Ester Szajndl (aka Fanny) Gutman (née
Frydman) and Symcha (aka Simon) Gutman.
The
photo on the left is in particularly bad condition,
and has been repaired with Sellotape in the past. It
depicts a middle-aged woman, who could be anything
from 40 to 60 years old. The photo bears parts of
three circular rubber stamps, in violet ink, across
three of its corners. Just above the Sellotape on
the left of the photo, the word "DURHAM" can clearly
be seen in the border of one stamp. In the top
left-hand corner of the photo, a similar stamp has
left the word "POLICE". In the top right-hand corner
of the photo, this stamp appears to have been
applied again, with the letters "POLI" faintly
visible. There may be a fourth stamp in the bottom
right-hand corner of the photo, which may also read
"DURHAM".
One
possible explanation for these stamps is that, from 1905, foreign "aliens" who did not hold British
citizenship but who lived in England were required
to register their presence with the police, in
accordance with the Aliens Act. Perhaps
this woman registered with Durham Police. The style
and quality of the photo are consistent with a date
of 1905.
However,
if the above explanation is accurate, then this is
unlikely to have been Fanny Friedman as
she lived in Leeds.
The
photo on the right is in slightly better condition
and is much sharper in focus and contrast. It
depicts a late-middle-aged man, probably in his 50s.
The style of the photo and of the gentleman's dress
suggests a date of around 1910. This photo also
bears partial markings of two rubber stamps in
violet ink. However, these are rectangular stamps,
at an angle over the top left- and top right-hand
corners of the photo. The stamp at the top left
bears the date 1916 inside the rectangle, preceded by a
couple of illegible characters. The stamp at the top
right bears no date.
If this
photo was stamped in 1916, and the style of the
photo is consistent with that period, this is very
unlikely to be Symcha Gutman, as he died in 1908
aged around 57. However, if the date of 1916 was an
expiry date of some kind, then the photo could have
been taken earlier. There seems to be a resemblance
between the man in this photo and Joseph Goodman (Gutman Photos Page
2),
Symcha's son, though this is clearly not Joseph, who
was the eldest of his generation.
The fact
that Shirley's album places these photos
side-by-side suggests that they were a couple, and
the only known Goodman couple of this age range
living in this time period were Symcha and Fanny.
The only piece of evidence to possibly contradict
this hypothesis is the date on the gentleman's
photo.
If you
can suggest answers to these questions,
please contact me at
saulmarks@hotmail.com. |
Photos donated by Shirley
Goodman |
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Photo 04-12-03
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This
photo was in Evelyn Fisher's collection, and she
identified this dapper young man as her father's
"cousin Jacob", although no cousins of her father's
generation have yet been discovered. Jacob married
very late in life, possibly towards the end of World
War II.
He was close to
Evelyn's parents when they lived in Chiswick during
the 1930s and early 1940s, and he used to visit for
weekends, as he lived in the East End of London.
Evelyn
said Jacob's surname was Mandelson or Mendelson or
similar, so
his mother could have been a sister of Symcha Gutman
or of Ester Szajndl Frydman, if Jacob was Harry's
first cousin.
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Do you recognise
this gentleman?
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Do you know any
information about him and his life?
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Can you clarify his
surname?
If you
can suggest answers to these questions,
please contact me at
saulmarks@hotmail.com. |
Photo donated by Evelyn
Fisher |
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Photo 04-12-04
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This
rather strange photo was also in Evelyn Fisher's
collection, and she has marked her father, Harry
Goodman, as the young man on the right. She thought
the young man on the left was his brother Joseph,
but this is clearly not the case, as there can be no
mistaking Joseph's large frame (Gutman Photos Page 2).
The style of dress and Harry's approximate age date
the photo around 1905 so, if the man on the right is
Harry's brother, it could be Sam, although Sam was
younger than Harry and this man appears older than
him here.
If you
can, please contact me at
saulmarks@hotmail.com. |
Photo donated by Evelyn
Fisher |
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Photo 04-12-05
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This
photo was also in Evelyn Fisher's collection, and
she identified her father, Harry Goodman, as the man
on the far left. She said the others were his
siblings, and the young man on the far right could
be Morris Goodman.
The man
in the centre of the photo bears a strong
resemblance to the man on the left of the photo
above, which may be Sam Goodman. It is possible that
the two women could be their two sisters, Gerty
Debovitch and Leah Zuck. However, the woman on the
left looks very similar to contemporary photos of
Harry's wife, Rachel Goodman (née
Rose), in which case, if the man in the centre is
Sam Goodman, the woman on the right could be his
wife, Pearl (née
Rosenthal). Sam and Pearl married in 1919, and this
photo was certainly taken around that period, so
this is possible. However, both the two youngest
Goodman brothers, Louis and Morris, married before
1920, so this questions the theory that the man on
the far right is Morris Goodman, especially as
Morris married in 1918. Therefore, it can be
concluded that there is serious doubt as to the
identities of all the people pictured, apart from
Harry Goodman.
The
photo was taken at a studio in Blackpool, where
Harry and Rachel and other members of the family
would often go on holiday.
If you
can suggest answers to these questions,
please contact me at
saulmarks@hotmail.com. |
Photo donated by Evelyn
Fisher |
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Photo 04-12-06
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This
photo comes Shirley
Goodman's old photo album. She was unable to
identify this gentleman, but began by saying he was
either part of the Goodman family or the unrelated
Book family. On a subsequent occasion, Shirley came
to the conclusion this man was not a Book, so was
probably a Goodman.
It is
difficult to date this photo, but the gentleman's
style of dress suggests it could have been taken in
the 1920s.
If you
can suggest answers to these questions,
please contact me at
saulmarks@hotmail.com. |
Photo donated by Shirley
Goodman |
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Photo 04-12-07
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Photo 04-12-08
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Photo 04-12-09
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These
photos were lent to me in June 2004 by Shirley
Goodman, and appear in the same section of her photo
album as the picture of Joseph Goodman with his son
Nat, shown on
Gutman Photos Page 2.
The
photo on the left shows Joseph with a girl who is
probably one of his daughters, though I do not know
which.
The
photo in the middle, clearly taken on the same day
on the same beach, could depict Joseph's three
daughters, Jessie, Rachel and Lily, along with a
fourth female. The girl on the left of the group of
three is undoubtedly Jessie Goodman and the ring on
her left hand shows she was either engaged or
married. She married in 1919 and her age in the
photo, along with the style of dress etc places it
probably in the mid-late 1920s or early 1930s.. If one of the
other girls shown
here is Lily, then this dates the photo as no later
than 1929, as Lily was killed in a car accident that
year.
The
photo on the right shows young women who could be
two of Joseph's daughters, along with a young girl
who could be a granddaughter. Indeed, she may be the
unknown girl shown in the photo below.
It is
thought these photos may have been taken on
Blackpool beach.
If you
can suggest answers to these questions,
please contact me at
saulmarks@hotmail.com. |
Photos donated by Shirley
Goodman |
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Photo 04-12-10
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This
photo also comes from the same section of Shirley
Goodman's old photo album and was clearly taken on
the same day as those above. Joseph Goodman is the man
at the back of the group, and his wife, Sarah
Rebecca Goodman
(née
Harris) is second from the right in the front row.
Their eldest daughter, Jessie Goodman, is at the far
right of the photo. Joseph died in 1930, so this
photo was taken no later than that year.
It can be assumed that the
other young women
are Joseph and Sarah Rebecca's other daughters, Rachel and Lily,
plus perhaps a friend or cousin. That
leaves a potential
granddaughter to be identified, along with which
Goodman daughter is which.
It is
thought this photo may also have been taken on
Blackpool beach.
If you
can suggest answers to these questions,
please contact me at
saulmarks@hotmail.com. |
Photo donated by Shirley
Goodman |
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Photo 04-12-11
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This
photo also comes from Shirley Goodman's old photo
album. These could be two of the daughters of Joseph
Goodman, posing for a comedy photo with some golf
clubs in a back garden. The girls' age and mode of
dress suggests the photo was taken in the 1920s. It
appears to have been somewhat affected by light down
its left-hand side.
If you
can suggest answers to these questions,
please contact me at
saulmarks@hotmail.com. |
Photo donated by Shirley
Goodman |
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Photo 04-12-12
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This
photo also comes from the same section of Shirley
Goodman's old photo album. Joseph Goodman and his
wife, Sarah Rebecca Goodman
(née
Harris),
are standing at the back of the group.
The
background suggests this photo may have been taken
in Leeds.
If you
can suggest answers to these questions,
please contact me at
saulmarks@hotmail.com. |
Photo donated by Shirley
Goodman |
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Photo 04-12-13
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This
photo also comes from Shirley Goodman's old photo
album. The man in the centre appears to be Louis
Harris Goodman, known universally as "Louis the Coal
Man".
If you
can suggest answers to these questions,
please contact me at
saulmarks@hotmail.com. |
Photo donated by Shirley
Goodman |
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Photo 04-12-14
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This
photo also comes from Shirley Goodman's old photo
album and appears to depict a group about to go on a
trip or outing of some kind.
If you
can,
please contact me at
saulmarks@hotmail.com. |
Photo donated by Shirley
Goodman |
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Photo 04-12-15
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Photo 04-12-16 |
Photo 04-12-17 |
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These
three photos also appear in Shirley Goodman's photo
album. The man in the photo on the left could be one
of the men in the above photo, so this one may have
been taken on the same day.
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Could either of the
first two couples be Isaac Jacob (aka Jack)
Goodman and his wife, Sarah (aka Sadie)?
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Could the couple on
the right be Louis Harris Goodman and his first
wife, Cissie?
If you
can,
please contact me at
saulmarks@hotmail.com. |
Photos donated by Shirley
Goodman |
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Photo 04-12-18
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This
photo also comes from Shirley Goodman's old photo
album and is not in particularly good condition. It shows what appears to be the entrance to
some kind of yard, adorned with signs. The sign on
the left reads "Goodman Bros / Leeds / ...t,
Payment, Civility". The sign on the right reads
simply "Goodman Bros Leeds". This photo has an air
of wartime about it, and the signs look as if they
could have been put up fairly quickly. The wording
on the left-hand sign is intriguing, without giving
away the nature of the Goodmans' business!
Unfortunately, the figures are in shadow, so no
positive identification can be made.
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Do you recognise
this place?
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Do you have a copy
of this photo?
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Do you know what
business the Goodman brothers owned?
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Do you know which
Goodman brothers were involved?
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Can you explain the
wording on the left-hand sign?
If you
can suggest answers to any of these questions,
please contact me at
saulmarks@hotmail.com.
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Photo donated by Shirley
Goodman |
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Photo 04-12-19
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This
photo also comes from Shirley Goodman's old photo
album, and is mounted on the same page as the photo
of Joseph and Sarah Rebecca Goodman shown at the top
of
Gutman Photos Page 2.
If you
can suggest an answer to this question,
please contact me at
saulmarks@hotmail.com.
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Photo donated by Shirley
Goodman |
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Photo 04-12-20
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This photo, from Shirley Goodman's album, probably taken around
1920, is most likely to be one of the
granddaughters of Joseph and Sarah Rebecca, but it
is not known which one.
If you
can suggest answers to any of these questions,
please contact me at
saulmarks@hotmail.com. |
Photos donated by
Shirley Goodman |
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Photo 04-12-21
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This
photo was also in Evelyn Fisher's collection, and
she identified this man as her uncle, Myer Rose.
However, the style of dress and his age are not
consistent with it being Myer, plus there is only a
tenuous similarity with the photo of him on
Gutman Photos Page
8.
Furthermore, Myer Rose had no known connection with
Brighton. David Simkin, a specialist in Sussex
photographers,
confirmed that this photo was taken in the 1890s
(though it may be a reprint), and the style of
facial hair is typical of the 1870s. Therefore, it
has been proven not to be Myer, as Myer was born in
1877.
The
question, therefore, remains, who is he? It has been
suggested that there are enough similarities to
Myer's father, Abraham Rose (also on
Gutman Photos Page 8),
that he could be an older brother of Abraham. The
question remains unanswered.
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Can you identify
this Victorian gentleman?
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Do you have a copy
of this photo in your own family collection?
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Do you have family
history in Brighton, with the surname similar to
Brzezinski, Brazenshky, Brazinsky or even Rose?
If you
can suggest answers to these questions,
please contact me at
saulmarks@hotmail.com. |
Photo donated by Evelyn
Fisher |
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Photo 04-12-22
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This
photo was lent to me by Roger Rose. He does not know
who these two young men are, but thought they could
be two brothers of his grandfather, Harry. However,
this seems very unlikely, as their style of dress
suggests the photo was taken in the 1910s, by which
time Harry's brothers would have been in their 30s
and 40s.
The
photo is 4.5cm in length and less than 3.5cm in
height, and is in a very fragile condition. The
reverse bears a rubber stamp of the Flashette Co of
Queen's Arcade, Leeds.
If you
can suggest answers to these questions,
please contact me at
saulmarks@hotmail.com. |
Photo donated by Roger
Rose |
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Photo 04-12-23
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Photo 04-12-24 |
Photo 04-12-25 |
Photo 04-12-26 |
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These
photos were also lent to me by Roger Rose. It is
presumed that his father, Bernard, took them whilst
serving in WWII. The one on the far left appears to
be a number of soldiers relaxing in the sunshine in
front of a building which could, perhaps, be French
in design.
The two
photos in the middle show soldiers walking through a
complex consisting of a number of cheaply-made
wooden huts, along with a large, imposing, brick
building. It is known that Bernard was among the
troops involved in clearing dead bodies at the
Bergen-Belsen concentration camp in Germany,
following its liberation on 15 April 1945. However,
it has yet to be confirmed whether these photos
were, indeed, taken there.
The
photo on the far right shows soldiers relaxing,
possibly on board a troop ship or at a dockland, but
it seems impossible to identify the exact location.
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Can you identify
any of the locations in these photos?
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Were the middle two
photos part of Bergen-Belsen concentration camp?
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Do you recognise any
of the soldiers in the photos, or their
uniforms?
If you
can suggest answers to these questions,
please contact me at
saulmarks@hotmail.com. |
Photos donated by Roger
Rose |
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